As for how far back we take your past into account, short answer is it really depends. People can change, and we go as far back as seems relevant for each case. Severity of past actions, repeated actions and age when something happened are some things that are considered. And as you said it can be hard to get a good grasp of the person from a written application, so if the application is good it will move to the next stage where we look at ingame behaviour, current behaviour is the most important while still keeping the past in mind where relevant. It’s hard to put this process into words, since each case can be so different.

And what I mainly meant by everyone is looked at the same is that while people we know might reach the point of acceptance faster, it doesn’t matter in the end. If you’re good enough, then you’re good enough. If that same person with a lot of friends who got accepted quickly, didn’t have staff friends, they’d still be accepted, it just might take a bit longer until we decide on it.

King a dit :

Jealy a dit :VoirMasquer

All staff that gets hired become official representatives for A801 and we need to be convinced they can act the part, of course joking around is fine, we all do it, but we need to know potential candidates won’t take it too far. And this also makes hiding the applicants’ usernames impossible, if we don’t know who they are, how can we check on their ingame behaviour and sanctions?

“Mods only hire friends” no we don’t, we judge all applicants by the same criteria. I’m not gonna lie and say knowing staff members can’t have benefits, if we know the person well we can make a final decision fairly quickly, be it good or bad (just because someone’s friends with a mod doesn’t mean their behaviour would fit a staff position, we reject friends too). But at the end of the day, and the end of the application process, everyone will have been looked at the same way and judgement is based on what we see during this time or know from before.

wtf do you really think id suggest not having applicants names at all? Obviously this can not happen but
they can be hidden through Application process with one trusted moderator knowing or being able to access to names
and once the application process is over the name will be delivered in order to proceed checking on a players sanction and
in-game behaviour. big obviously

also having an history with a player doesn't mean that the same moderator should vote on it or give his two cents
because I won't act or say the same things in public as I tell to my friends unless im not allowed to be a friend of
moderator and be blunt and open and sometimes immature/dumb. Moderators that are befriended with a certain applicant should be disqualified from voting.

also for charln, say whatever you want to say but in the end of the day this is a mouse game and not some workplace,
what's the definition of immature for you?

I don't see how hiding the name is beneficial AT ALL. Anyone is capable of writing a decent application if they get enough help or invest enough time and effort into it. It'll be the same thing once the names are revealed.

On top of that, why would we prevent any staff from giving honest input on experiences with a player? Having a history with applicants is extremely helpful in the process. We have had many circumstances where an applicant puts on a false personality or takes on a whole different character during the entirety of the application process, but that facade is outed because someone truly knows how they act/what they're saying in private. We are also quite responsible during voting as well. We give input on applicants, but we also very much refrain from voting on friends to avoid that bias.

We've also had experiences in the past where someone thought they were outsmarting staff by creating a new account and pretending to be an entirely different person to see if it would help them get a staff position, but that's why we thoroughly look into everything... It is more than just an app!!

King a dit :

also for charln, say whatever you want to say but in the end of the day this is a mouse game and not some workplace,
what's the definition of immature for you?

My personal definition of immature doesn't matter all too much in the hiring process of new mods, its what the entirety of the EN team thinks of as immature that'll count. If you have any other questions specifically for me, please PM me instead of clustering this thread with non-feedback (as per the thread rules).

I would like to thank all of the staff for always being polite and patient during various situations. Sometimes it’s probably difficult! Keep up the good work and I hope to see this continue in the future! <3

Thank you so much to all the staff members to listen to the community. I was really proud when I saw a many staff members leaving the team. I'm glad that others players will have the chance to able to apply for the moderation team now. Good job<3

Rorien a dit :

I was really proud when I saw a many staff members leaving the team. I'm glad that others players will have the chance to able to apply for the moderation team now.

With the recent leaving, I think it's important to note again that there have never been a limited number of spots in staff teams. There being x number of mods doesn't affect how often people are hired, in fact it happens about every 6 months no matter how many mods there are - actually, we're about due for applications soon! In big in-game communities like EN, the search for new staff is pretty much constant. When new staff are hired, they hire as many as are suitable because it's always nice to have more support with all the reports and whispers. However, having fewer inactive accounts is better for security purposes and means people may get faster replies via forum message.

Not rude at all, glad we're able to discuss and clarify things ^^' And it does seem like we're in agreement here. Hopefully we're making the process more transparent by explaining how it works.

Generally we hire everyone who is suitable from a round of applications, so if they weren't accepted back then, the reason is probably no different now. I understand it might feel frustrating to fill out the same form, but it's a chance to double check your responses and review your own behavior to see how you've changed since last round. As many have suggested, giving feedback to everyone who wasn't hired would be really helpful, so hopefully that happens this coming round.

If a player wants to appeal a ban, we ask that they contact a staff member on the forums to verify that its actually their account. We will not give information to a friend (or someone they may know) asking about further information in behalf of the person banned. This is specified in the Staff FAQ and #rules channel in the public Discord server. We prefer the forums because we can't truly know if the person in contact on Discord is the actual owner of the account in question, especially if the Discord user happens to be unverified. We take account security very seriously, because the private information attached to the persons account is what will be used if they are ever in a situation where they may need help regaining access to their account via the contact form.

If the EN forum is starting to look like a mess, please report the posts/threads that need to be taken care of. Our reports have been low lately.

Back in my time I'v made a h&ll of a good job as a mod, crew and sentinel, but I got fired after almost 3 long years for the most silly reason: The newest BR admin (at that time) had told me I couldnt be friends with the 'recently fired admin'. I told her my personal relationships weren't rly her business. So she fired me 'for talking to her like that' and THATS IT! No mod in my team could say anything about the matter. She was a jealous angry woman. ^^

You players must know smth about moderation:
MODS are rarely recognized by their hard work.
MODS dont get paid (not even with cheese!).
There is no way to help improve the community if there are no changes in the way the admins handle things themselves.

There have never been a limited number of mods in the mod team, so it doesnt rly matter if there are lots of active or inactive mods. What matters is that the job is too stressfull and too sad for a person over 18 years old to handle for a rly long time! Mods go to college. Mods get real jobs. And once they are home, they wanna destress. AND THATS WHY THEY ARE NEVER ON. TFM moderation job is to fight over silly hacks with a pretty bad report system, knowing that nothing will ever change unless TFM changes its main platform.

"Oh Jess, so why did u handle the job for almost 3 years?"
Well, back there I had no job, I was unhappy in real life and TFM was the unique place I could scape and feel loved for some of the kids I used to take care of. The crew team used to make me feel important, the spiritual team used to treat me with respect. I used to feel like a super hero in the forums with all those events!!! And like me, I bet some of the current mods feel too. So about that 'sentimental thing' you guys were talking about: Here is how you solve it:
First: Stop showing off at your real work and tell me if your real boss were sentimental with you too of if you got fired.
Second: Start FIREING 1 month inactive mods on TFM aswell and I garantee at least 10 of them will show up twince a week to mantain their mod position, cause it makes them feel important too and they cant lose it like I couldnt.

ALSO THIRD: Offer these hard work mods some kind of payment and I'm sure they will bother showing a little bit more them twince a week, cause they deserve to get paid!!!

The community has no idea what it rly is to deal with moderation, team pressure and admins strange rules. You can mod the game 6 days a week. But if you decide to play on the seventh day, BE SURE EVERYBODY IS GONNA TELL YOU, YOU ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH.

And about the forums:
Lets face it! Most of kids here dont bother reading a post before using the forums. Kids here never report posts when necessary. They create another thread to complain that the forum is a mess. Am I wrong? Check it by yourself: 5 years ago I used to tell ppl to use the report system, and here is the sentinel above me Dracoleaf doing the same thing. Poor guy.

Hope you get the idea now.

Peace out.