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I have only one question. Who is Mapcrew? And why does he hate me?

Bakpaofgunz a dit :

Mapcrew is an account with full privileges for e.g. trial mapcrew or members that wish to fulfill mapcrew duties without logging onto their own account.

Also doubt (s)he hates you unless you're bothering them ingame which isnt really why they are there for.

When I log into Mapcrew to review racing and someone whispers me, I reply with "Don't whisper me again, thanks." and immediately ignore them.

Please don't annoy the person using it by whispering them. Let them work without being bothered.

Holomouse a dit :

Omg, would never guessed! It was you all along!!?? Wow
Welcome newb.

Physcolo a dit :

wow you're the same person?? awesome

Welcome ^-^

Shadowwinter a dit :

Thank you.

Smelly shadow.
Welcome to the map crew.

(No this is not a map report, do not assume it is thank you)

Hi I'm here because I'm starting too question the Mapcrew's judgement, and would like an explimation for such a thing I just found out

Mapcrew accepted @1730988 (for reasons I do not know and I'm curious as too why)

And Mapcrew declines @3912610 (yes I'm using my map but only because I know all the reasons as too why it was declined, if it was someone elses and I knew why I would rather use theirs too prevent people from thinking this is a rant about how my map didn't get accepted) because if I remember correctly it was because the gameplay was generic, and such.

Now I'd like too compare these two maps. If you look at the first and compare it too the second, all it is is wj (which is extremely generic) and not quality art art, with the other one, great art and slightly better than generic, but still slightly generic gameplay.

I'm questioning as too why Mapcrew rejects deperms some maps, that really are great quality maps, and perms maps that are lower quality than such maps. Is it because such a map maker already has lots of perms? while a differant one has none so it is easier too get perms? If so it shouldn't be. Are there bias's? There shouldn't be that either, and if that's not why then what reasons are there too such baffoonery, I constantly hear people complain about how mapcrew perm terible maps, and reject the great ones, but with these examples it's (in my opinion of course) clear proof of such claims.

I'd also not just like too get the Mapcrews opinion on this, but also other players as well.

(I'd like too say before I end this, I have nothing against Rafaelcdss's maps, maybe not this one in-peticular, but he's a great mech map maker and is very creative in my eyes)

If I can be blunt I realize I blow you off 99% of the time in IRC but feel free to come to me and ask about these sort of things. If you have a legitimate question I'll always answer you.

I'm going to answer you without viewing either map, so take that into consideration.

I understand from the player's point of view, you submit a map, and you get a sentence back explaining why a decision was made if you're lucky. I get that it can be irritating at times, but I ask you to take a look at things from the mapcrew's point of view.

I've been meaning to review P4 for the past few days but I haven't been looking forward to seeing 100-200 maps of average quality that I need to comment on. I've always been one to comment on every map, with racing being the exception. It is a true pain to get this done. It's kind of unrelated but I may do an abbreviated review of P4 in a day or two simply stating which maps I found to be good enough for a further discussion.

That being said - yeah, there is always going to be a time where you thing you spent a long time on your map and it sucks it isn't getting discussed further. Sometimes I think everyone may benefit from more abbreviated reviews - "All maps to this point have been reviewed. Feel free to post again." rather than stating which maps were added, which weren't, and which were P1'ed.

Barrydarsow a dit :

If I can be blunt I realize I blow you off 99% of the time in IRC but feel free to come to me and ask about these sort of things. If you have a legitimate question I'll always answer you.

I understand that, but this is for the entire comunity and the entire mapcrew. not one person (because it's meant to be opinion and something too not only answer but disscuss)

Barrydarsow a dit :

I'm going to answer you without viewing either map, so take that into consideration.

[Long post about how reviewing 200-100 maps of average quality is a pain]

It would be much better too look at the maps because I wasn't talking about being P1 only or being left as is, I'm talking about maps that have been put up for disscussion. So were talking about (going to estimate high because I don't have a clue how many maps go into disscussion let's say a week, feel free to correct me) 50-100 maps put in disscussion a week, let alone specific catagorys for each, and let alone (from what i know in the past and pressent can still imagine) mapcrew don't vote/look at every map put up for disscussion in a single round. Knowing this it's not going too be a pain for such maps in the disscussions, and should have nothing too do with it.

It would have also been much better too look at the maps, because they were only examples, and because this is more an opinion question, so an opinion answer would much rather be prefered.

reading through what you said I'm confused if the question was really even answered, or rather just avoided.

I'm sorry if you think it would be better to look at the maps, but honestly, when someone raises an issue that involves a map that they made themselves, their judgement becomes clouded.

Who knows better than you how long you took to make the map, how much time you took to refine it?

Barrydarsow a dit :

I'm sorry if you think it would be better to look at the maps, but honestly, when someone raises an issue that involves a map that they made themselves, their judgement becomes clouded.

Who knows better than you how long you took to make the map, how much time you took to refine it?

the issue isn't with my map, it's with a lot of maps made by everyone, I can only use my own map comparing too someone elses because I know more about how the disscussion went down for my own map, then someone elses, where I am not that person, so I know not as to the reasons why their map which was better then X didn't get accepted while X did even thought it was worse

Other than that I compleately agree with you, infact I'm looking for information as too other maps made by others getting rejected just so I don't have too use my own, I even said in my post I would have rather not used mine, maybe untill than could we think of the examples I put out as "nameless", I don't want me trying too question the mapcrews judgement in disscussion too be haulted simply because I don't know the reasons as too why other great amazing maps get rejected that are made by. If you can maybe you could supply someones map that got rejected for similer reasons/the same reasons, but was clearly better, after all you have access too such things. I'd greatly appriciate it if you could find a map like that, using my own makes me look kinda selfish and low :(

hello these things interest me so I looked at the maps as a third party and have to agree the P5 is rather atrocious and the P1, while basic, is much, much better.

I just thought I'd mention that without being the mapmaker qq'ing about her own maps for once.

Impuredeath a dit :

Ill review them.

The problem there is I'm talking about maps that were in disscussion, not ones that were just notreviewed or already reviewed, so even if you re-put them for disscussion would it matter? Wouldn't the same results happen? Or shouldn't it be the same, and not be differant for other maps.