So only now I found this thread of something I always wanted since the introduction of flags. So /fullsupport (I also agree on adding the bissexual and transgender ones too, because equality!)

/half support
I'm not entirely sure about this one.
Firstly, it's not even a country, it's a movement, and secondly, I could imagine that people would get bullied for waving this flag.

What the fuck is LGBT...?
But /support anyways because the flag looks nice

if they did this then they would have to make 50+ different flags so people don't get pissy that only lgbt has a flag

As a pan I really want to support this, but seeing the fights going in this thread alone makes me fear what might come if it actually comes in game. Imagine if a younger person waves this flag and they just end up being bullied for it...
I really rather have everyone being on good terms....

Rjbarrus a dit :

straight people aren't discriminated for who they are...

that was true in the past, but now they are, possibly more than other sexualities

Bepperluver a dit :

Rjbarrus a dit :VoirMasquer

straight people aren't discriminated for who they are...

that was true in the past, but now they are, possibly more than other sexualities

just because people on tumblr post that they hate straight people doesn't mean that they face any sort of discrimination in the real world

also I think this is a fine idea =)

Bepperluver a dit :

Rjbarrus a dit :VoirMasquer

straight people aren't discriminated for who they are...

that was true in the past, but now they are, possibly more than other sexualities

you cant discriminate against straight people this was the most painful thing to read ever

lolifrozen a dit :

What the fuck is LGBT...?
But /support anyways because the flag looks nice

lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgender

/support all the way! <3

/support

I fully support LGBT community

/support
LGBT flag is a rainbow one bruh.

I support the lgbt+ community but haruhitastic and shamousey are right. it will be a big problem with tfm. so /no support.

Wonderdashh a dit :

I support the lgbt+ community but haruhitastic and shamousey are right. it will be a big problem with tfm. so /no support.

basically this, i don't know if i'd said it already

Well... there are good reasons to support this aswell as non-support it. It could cause alot of arguing and fighting, but this flag also supports the LGBT community, and could boost their confidence against bullying.

Shamousey a dit :

I don't support this, basically for the same reasons Haruhitastic pointed out on the first page. I think it'd be a nice way to support the idea of gay pride, especially since the SCOTUS decision in the USA recently, but the flags were originally only meant for country flags.

There are already a ton of issues with people waving other country flags where people get offended, and I've heard a lot of reports of it particularly in middle-eastern communities where there's war right now, but also people crowding German servers to wave UK/US flags, etc. It's not a pretty thing or good for anyone. At that, more people will get offended by gay pride and even though I'm personally fine with it, Transformice is an international community with players from all around the world - not all of which support homosexuality and it's straight up illegal (such as in Russia).

Don't get me wrong, I think it's good to take a step forwards and encourage people to be open-minded about these things, but I also think it's important to respect other cultures and opinions even if they don't fit with our views on it in the Western world.

Haruhitastic a dit :

I'm on the fence about this. Not because I'm "homophobic" or whatever you care to call it (which would be ironic to refer to me as given I'm part of the LGBTQIA+ community), but more I just don't trust children.
A lot of children still live in religious families and have been raised that homosexuality is a sin/unnatural/improper/whatever you care to call it. A lot of children also play this game.
I foresee a lot of fighting and hurt feelings and mod involvement because someone got offended at the presence of the gay pride flag.

Not to mention as well, the rainbow flag in recent is only seen as the "gay pride" flag. Bisexuality and transgender also have their own flags now, and if you allow the gay pride flag and not these, people could say that Transformice is becoming biphobic/transphobic. You really would need to cater to all, or none.

I agree with both of these posts^^

/Half Support from me.

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Nivanadiva a dit :

How is waving a flag on a mouse game supposed to make them feel confident??

I meant, that, like, it could remind someone they're not alone.

/nosupport

Would cause too many arguments (especially from people like me lmao)
and religion.

If you want to wave flags do it at home or in public.

winter4438 a dit :

Well... there are good reasons to support this aswell as non-support it. It could cause alot of arguing and fighting, but this flag also supports the LGBT community, and could boost their confidence against bullying.

Shamousey a dit :VoirMasquer

I don't support this, basically for the same reasons Haruhitastic pointed out on the first page. I think it'd be a nice way to support the idea of gay pride, especially since the SCOTUS decision in the USA recently, but the flags were originally only meant for country flags.

There are already a ton of issues with people waving other country flags where people get offended, and I've heard a lot of reports of it particularly in middle-eastern communities where there's war right now, but also people crowding German servers to wave UK/US flags, etc. It's not a pretty thing or good for anyone. At that, more people will get offended by gay pride and even though I'm personally fine with it, Transformice is an international community with players from all around the world - not all of which support homosexuality and it's straight up illegal (such as in Russia).

Don't get me wrong, I think it's good to take a step forwards and encourage people to be open-minded about these things, but I also think it's important to respect other cultures and opinions even if they don't fit with our views on it in the Western world.

Haruhitastic a dit :VoirMasquer

I'm on the fence about this. Not because I'm "homophobic" or whatever you care to call it (which would be ironic to refer to me as given I'm part of the LGBTQIA+ community), but more I just don't trust children.
A lot of children still live in religious families and have been raised that homosexuality is a sin/unnatural/improper/whatever you care to call it. A lot of children also play this game.
I foresee a lot of fighting and hurt feelings and mod involvement because someone got offended at the presence of the gay pride flag.

Not to mention as well, the rainbow flag in recent is only seen as the "gay pride" flag. Bisexuality and transgender also have their own flags now, and if you allow the gay pride flag and not these, people could say that Transformice is becoming biphobic/transphobic. You really would need to cater to all, or none.

I agree with both of these posts^^

/Half Support from me.

How is waving a flag on a mouse game supposed to make them feel confident?? tf?
Like what are pixels supposed to do?

Some of these /no support arguments are so weak they're laughable. First of all, there's a lot of people who don't know what LGBT is, which clearly shows they live in a sheltered community with limited internet access or they're simply too young to play the game anyway (The online game is only legally playable for those over the age of 13). LGBT, if you don't know, stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transexual, which are the 4 most-commonly known sexual attractions that are not heterosexual.

This flag, while not representative of a country, represents a powerful movement surrounding these people to ask for acceptance in a homophobic society, that consider anybody who is not a straight person comfortable with their gender and sexuality as subhuman or even abominations. The fact.

Second of all, to the people who complain about children being ignorant, the children Shouldn't be playing the game anyway because they are legally too young to play, so that is in invalid argument.

Third of all, to the people who say that it offends their religion or religions may be offended by the flag, why should they? Because they believe in stories that were supposedly written by followers of an entity that nobody has physical proof of existing? I'm not trying to be offensive, but the fact that they will base their views over a book instead of forming their own opinion speaks for themselves. If it gets too offensive, there is an ignore feature that can block anybody who has anything offensive to say a very large group of people that they eventually will have to accept or be blinded by falsehood.

Fourth of all, the countries that see the LGBT+ community as some kind of illegality, those are the very small minority of the fanbase that can keep their opinions to themselves or feel the wrath of my ignore command. It's really simple to get rid of these people on the internet, you'll be surprised.

Fifth of all, the people arguing that the flags 'should only represent the countries' have the weakest argument of them all. When did Atelier EVER state that they were ONLY going to be for the countries? Even in the sense that the devs shouldn't 'waste time' on it, why do we even have the flag command to begin with? Apart from maybe a past event, what does it actually do or add to the community anyway except an emoticon? Even if the suggestion is ignored for the simple fact of the flag commands uselessness, then that's the only valid argument you can have.

Even so, I give this a /half support for the simple fact that I am 100% in support, but wouldn't want the devs to spend time on the flag command, for the simple fact of how useless it is as a command. But if they DO add the flag I have no objections and I'm even happy to accept the flag into the game.

Acespyro a dit :

(The online game is only legally playable for those over the age of 13)

Or with parental permission.

Acespyro a dit :

Second of all, to the people who complain about children being ignorant, the children Shouldn't be playing the game anyway because they are legally too young to play, so that is in invalid argument.

You know what I'll actually agree with you on that, but there are still children over thirteen who are sheltered and think this way.