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| This discussion was already beyond the point of offering anything of substance before I even started to take a part in it. I explained why, but since the person in question doesn't want to hear it there's nothing left to do other than posting funny memes.  |
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Anythin a dit : Lol funny memes, ur comments are funny |
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Avebi a dit : What exactly makes these bad maps? Is it because they don't rely on gimmicks and cheap shortcuts that negate 70% of the map design? Or is it because you don't know them like the back of your hand so you can't gain an instantaneous advantage against half the room to get first? |
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Barrydarsow  « Censeur »
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| If someone can give me a list of 250-500 modern racing maps that are not part of any group then I'd love to have a group of all new maps. My original plan was to have a month of never-before-seen retro maps followed by a month of never-before-seen modern maps. The issue was that I only got up to about 50 maps and it was eating up so much time, so instead I just perm those maps from time to time along with whatever the month's current group is. It takes time to find and test maps. Like I always say, any nob can point out maps that suck, the hard part is finding better ones. If you're up to the challenge, I'll even give you a tool to load the maps and pick them out more easily. You're welcome to hate the retro maps, nobody is arguing that you need to like them. That choice was understood to be very controversial from the beginning and it wasn't meant to please players like you. The part I don't understand however is that you seem to have a personal issue with me. I've been in charge of racing since 2011 before it was an official part of the game, back when Holzinator was controlling it. Holz got sick of dealing with map submissions so he gave map control to a few mods that raced (Secuoya, Thejkb, and someone else I've forgotten). Nobody else wanted to spend the time required to load and test all the maps, so it quickly became my responsibility. When racing became official with P17, I had to argue with the Map Crew who at the time were very strict and wanted to deperm a bunch of the classic maps because they looked ugly. In the following years, Tig was updating the game frequently and fucking up half the map rotation without any warning. The update that broke wallpushes, the ice speed trick, and other animation-dependent ways to take a lead ruined half of the racing shortcuts either entirely or partially. I found replacements and kept adding more maps, both via the submission thread and by looking through random map lists... P1s, P0s that came up during regular game play, wherever I could find them. Since 2015, there has been a bug with the server's map randomizer. I took some stats and it showed that certain maps played 10 times before other maps played even once. The devs couldn't fix the problem so as usual I fixed it myself by splitting the 1000+ racing maps into groups and changing them on the 1st of the month (sadly some maps still play too often and I can't fix this unless I put a bot in a room and have it control the map rotation). A couple years ago the submitted maps all looked and played the same (all shitty maze maps for some reason), so I typed up a guide and started giving detailed reviews in the months the followed. I can't even tell you how many PMs I sent back and forth with players after that to help them make more interesting maps. When I started making improvements with my health issues and spending less time on this game, I made sure that the Map Crew members that would be reviewing the racing thread and picking maps after my departure would know what to do. It's not limited to all that either, hell, I created Mapdrawbot which you've been using for your records sheet. Mapdrawbot Log a dit : Looks might even like the bot a little too much. You're wording your posts like I'm some assclown that doesn't even like racing, like I just showed up recently and fucked with something sacred. I've been here the entire time. If you knew all this and still think I suck then hey you have the right to feel that way, but don't lose sight of the fact that this is one small decision as part of a much bigger picture. For future reference, the best way to get me (and most other people) to ignore your opinion is by ranting and raving in an emotional manner like this. It doesn't call anyone's attention to a problem or change anyone's minds, it only gets the attention of people that agreed with you in the first place. If you want people to listen then you need to relax, state your opinion in a respectful manner and propose a solution. Save this kind of rage for when I replace the entire racing rotation with shaman maps. Normally I don't respond to tantrums because giving attention to it just reinforces that kind of behavior but let's see if we can get something positive out of this situation: I look forward to you showing me those under-appreciated maps you spoke about. Look, I'll even do some of the work for you! Here is a list of all the maps in the P17 thread with duplicates and current racing maps removed: https://pastebin.com/raw/gZDCrdXm Here is a tool to load them quickly and pick out the ones you want: http://barrydarsow.com/NobMapLoader.exe If you want to sort or randomize the list, I like using this site: http://www.sortmylist.com How To Use
 1. List of hotkeys and their functions. 2. Select a map in the list of your choices and press this button if you want to remove it. 3. This button will copy all of your choices to the clipboard when you're done, so you can paste them in a forum PM. 4. If this box is checked, there will be a popup asking you to type in a comment with each map. (There is a minor bug where you will have to click the text box in the "Add Comment" box the first time to give it focus. After that, you can start typing as soon as it pops up). 5. If this box is checked, the tool will save your choices to a text file every 30 seconds in case something goes wrong. This is on by default. 6. This changes the Transformice command used to load the map. Use !np for Utility rooms, /np for Tribe House. Fuzzyfirsdog a dit : Sorry to overshadow your post with this wall of text, I'll quote it here so people can see/respond. |
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