Ikdebest a dit :

When, are the new applications?

Applications will be open again when there's a need for more moderation staff, typically apps open once every 6-8 months, and they were last open only a few months ago.

i've got to Ban 20 hours due to hack and yesterday I got banned for 10 hours. But I did not hack I'm just full day playing Survivor please help me.

Davidjenovi a dit :

i've got to Ban 20 hours due to hack and yesterday I got banned for 10 hours. But I did not hack I'm just full day playing Survivor please help me.

Try reading the ban appeals tab from the first page of this thread, it explains all the necessary steps to take.

A year ago ive been banned for 360 hours and that was the last time i was banned until yesterday i got banned for 10 hours i have friend which im playing all day playing Survivor he can prove it that im not a hacker. I learned my mistakes that day (360 hour ban). Please trust me.

Davidjenovi a dit :

A year ago ive been banned for 360 hours and that was the last time i was banned until yesterday i got banned for 10 hours i have friend which im playing all day playing Survivor he can prove it that im not a hacker. I learned my mistakes that day (360 hour ban). Please trust me.

In case you have not followed the help Shamousey gave you:

Contact a mod through IRC. Mods are those with the @ symbol, minus Papaille. You can get their attention by typing their name in your message as that will send them an alert, or you can type '/query TheirUsername' to open up a private chat. Ask the available mod: who banned you, so you could contact the one that banned you next. If you are unable to contact the one that banned you through IRC, you could try to send them a Private Message on the forum. If no mods are available on IRC, then you can do the same process by Private Messages or wait till a mod is available on IRC.

I'm making a post here as I want all staff members to see it.

We firstly have this thread where the cited text in the mute stated Lazaar was banned for talking about a tribe:

[~Moderator] You can not talk for 3 hours. Reason: please dont use homophobic slurs, even if they are tribe names. [Lazaar] Super Giga Kawaii Gay Bois Tribu is love Super Giga Kawaii Gay Bois Tribu is life
Source being above.
That was addressed. Whisky explained that mutes are given irregardless of the context of the usage of "gay," whether improper or not.
While I understand 'gay' isn't always used in a negative term anymore and that it's perfectly possible for people to have respectful conversations using the term, it is still prominently used as an insult against homosexual people with the intent of being emasculating. There's no denying that. When it comes to giving out sanctions, staff try and check the context of what is said first before handing out a sanction since we understand that not every case may deserve one. We do tend to give out mutes in situations when there is little to no context or if it's not clear beyond any reasonable doubt of the intent of what was said since it is common for people to try and intend to be insulting or negative while claiming that they never intended the use of that term negatively when caught. Hence why warnings and low sanctions are given out in these circumstances.

A friend of mine has stated on Skype that he has been muted, for a similar reason:

[2:52:53 PM] #TeamBest Crashwolf: [~Moderator] Du kannst für 1 Stunden nicht sprechen. Grund: Homophobie
[2:58:38 PM] #TeamBest Crashwolf: i came into the room and tom was like crash <333333333 and i said tom <3333333 and people were like "gays" and i said, "yeah, gay" cause i cant use elaborated english in DE and got muted
[2:55:05 PM] #TeamBest Crashwolf: its funny cause i was replying to someone who actually called us gays in a derogatory manner'
[3:10:01 PM] #TeamBest Crashwolf: the guy who called us gays didnt get muted

There is nothing homophobic here; for all they know, Crash and the friend he was speaking to are actually in a relationship and that you have essentially muted him for stating that they are; which in and of itself is a form of homophobia because you are silencing their relationship.
This contextless method of punishment is, to be blunt, stupid, and this is twice in one day that it has backfired. As I stated in my reply to Lazaar's thread above, stop assuming what is offensive to the LGBTQIA+ community. Either actually mute people who are using gay insultingly and not for another meaning of the word, or give up. Because as it currently stands, all you're doing is pissing people off.

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Same thing happened to a friend of mine that said in a really bad english "I love you, but i'm not gay" and received a mute. Honestly that was kinda disappointing.

Just browsing the forums when I saw Haruhitastic's post and just wanted to add on same thing happened to me (saying the word "gay" and getting booted off for an hour by a mod for thinking I was using it offensively). This was about a year ago though, long time.

We are currently speaking as a team on how we are going to handle any future cases like this. We are reviewing how we assess the chat in relation to its context. We are aware that this situation wasn't handled as well as it could have been.

We hear you and understand how you feel about what happened and are speaking as a team to make sure this doesn't happen again. We appreciate your feedback and concerns raised on what happened.

Cool, thank you; but truthfully in my eyes the choice on what to do for the future is pretty clear.

There's a good friend of mine who I play with who I regularly call a gaylord as a joke. Neither of us are offended, I sincerely doubt anybody will be if I say it in chat; but I'd likely be muted for it when there was no malicious intent at all behind it. And that's sad.

You need to consider taking up EpicMafia's stance on this sort of thing, where you only hand out punishment if it's meant maliciously. IE: "I'm gay for you" is clearly fine, whereas "Go kill yourself f---" is obviously not. Plus too you'll spend less time having to deal with reports on silly stuff and focus on the real offenders.

Haruhitastic a dit :

There's a good friend of mine who I play with who I regularly call a gaylord as a joke. Neither of us are offended, I sincerely doubt anybody will be if I say it in chat; but I'd likely be muted for it when there was no malicious intent at all behind it. And that's sad.

Personally I feel like this situation is similar enough to the discussion over on CheeseForMice about whether to allow middle finger images directed at people. I gave my opinion on that here and think the same right now - not everyone can know everyone else's relationships and it'd give the wrong impression to not sanction based on that.

Which goes back to what I say: sanction only if it's used in an obvious offensive manner. Which ironically, is how CFM handles reports like that.

I'm really not trying to take a side here or to defend/accuse somebody, but I am asking myself the following: Is there a difference between you jokingly calling your friend with a homophobic slur and somebody else calling their friend the N word jokingly? Should both be sanctioned? Maybe it's not insulting for the person in question but outsiders could find it insulting if the slur ties a connection to them. After all, using slurs, also jokingly, has an origin somewhere.
What I am trying to say is that I don't think the choice on what to do for the future is pretty clear, but a line has to be drawn somewhere, otherwise users will assume despotism/capriciousness among the mods. The only solution would be some kind of tfm chat court which is just as ridiculous as it sounds, lol.

Haruhitastic a dit :

There's a good friend of mine who I play with who I regularly call a gaylord as a joke.

By doing so in a public environment you are setting a wrong example to other, mostly younger children, who think it's okay to call each other a gaylord. What happens next is that these people are going to use that word to insult and claim they were "joking". That excuse has never worked in the past, and I don't wish to see it as an excuse in the future either.

The examples you give of obvious situations do not occur as much as you think they do, in most cases it is a grey area where people intentionally try to be as blurry as possible so they can be insulting but not get muted for it.

Wait so mods are now muting people simply for the usage of the word gay, regardless of context, even if it's merely a part of a tribe name, and then accusing others of being homophobic?

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There's a good friend of mine who I play with who I regularly call a gaylord as a joke.

By doing so in a public environment you are setting a wrong example to other, mostly younger children, who think it's okay to call each other a gaylord. What happens next is that these people are going to use that word to insult and claim they were "joking". That excuse has never worked in the past, and I don't wish to see it as an excuse in the future either.

It's not an excuse though lmao? Not in my case at least. I mean, I see where you're coming from, but if you're accusing me of using that as an excuse then I'm pretty offended.

Maybe parents should be parents, maybe mods shouldn't have to try take the job of parents, and maybe A801 should more closely regard that TUC that they're pushing so hard now and only permit 13+ to sign up.

Epifistu a dit :

I'm really not trying to take a side here or to defend/accuse somebody, but I am asking myself the following: Is there a difference between you jokingly calling your friend with a homophobic slur and somebody else calling their friend the N word jokingly? Should both be sanctioned? Maybe it's not insulting for the person in question but outsiders could find it insulting if the slur ties a connection to them. After all, using slurs, also jokingly, has an origin somewhere.
What I am trying to say is that I don't think the choice on what to do for the future is pretty clear, but a line has to be drawn somewhere, otherwise users will assume despotism/capriciousness among the mods. The only solution would be some kind of tfm chat court which is just as ridiculous as it sounds, lol.

This is a good point as well. There's two versions of said "N word," one that isn't seen as racist and one that is. But if you want to eye this line - "maybe it's not insulting for the person in question but outsiders could find it insulting if the slur ties a connection to them. After all, using slurs, also jokingly, has an origin somewhere," then I want to see mentions of rape sanctioned too. Since outsiders can be offended by it as well.

tl;dr TFM's rules are really screwed up and they need to come up with a clear, concise plan of action against them; and post it PUBLICLY too so people know what's okay and what's not. Because all this gray area bullshit is needless and confusing.

Haruhitastic a dit :

It's not an excuse though lmao? Not in my case at least. I mean, I see where you're coming from, but if you're accusing me of using that as an excuse then I'm pretty offended.

What I'm saying is, that what is a joke to you isn't neccessarily a joke to someone else. If you're going around in public saying "yeh I regularly call my friend a gaylord as a joke", and expect everyone to be okay with that, you are creating a precedent where in the future people can refer to when they are being sanctioned for using gaylord as an insult (She's using it as a joke, so am I !!!). If you choose to make such easily misplaced jokes in public, you can't expect the moderation team not react to it. There are plenty of other places on Transformice where you can make such jokes (private rooms, tribechat, private chats, whispers) and not need to worry about being warned, but I don't think a public room is one of them.

Yeah, I get your point now, so I apologize. I don't really expect everyone to be okay with it per se, but at the same time it'd be silly in my eyes to mute/warn for homophobia, which is why I say it should be watched careful and then determine if it's meant offensively or not. If yes, then punish as normal, if no then let it slide. A 0h mute to be more careful at most. Iunno.

E - Blah I'm getting a bit jumbled up here. I think my tl;dr sums up my point in the end tho;

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tl;dr TFM's rules are really screwed up and they need to come up with a clear, concise plan of action against them; and post it PUBLICLY too so people know what's okay and what's not. Because all this gray area bullshit is needless and confusing.