I'm sorry to butt in into your conversation, but I feel the need to say that this is not just Arab server, that is having these problems. A lot of smaller servers do not have any moderators and experience same problems that were stated in the Op post and some have it even worse. As far as I know, it's really not easy to find Moderators who would meet the requirements. All we can do is patiently wait and try to handle the problems as a community and call mods to handle more serious problems from the other communities, whenever they are free

Sonicherois a dit :

I'm sorry to butt in into your conversation, but I feel the need to say that this is not just Arab server, that is having these problems. A lot of smaller servers do not have any moderators and experience same problems that were stated in the Op post and some have it even worse. As far as I know, it's really not easy to find Moderators who would meet the requirements. All we can do is patiently wait and try to handle the problems as a community and call mods to handle more serious problems from the other communities, whenever they are free

It's fine all are welcomed!
AR server got alot of hackers tho, all who want to hack goes there, got the weakest protection, other servers got more protection at least 1 mod, we got none.

Im still waiting,

You can use the ignore button, lol

Eshkation a dit :

You can use the ignore button, lol

Ignore button bans people?
There is bad language that can be ignored but for hacks it is for AR since all hack there because there is no mods.
P.S: Most of the day there's hackers in survivor rooms please mods come and ban them or set a active mod or new one

If there is no moderator available to help out, you have the alternative to voteban (/ban command) hackers out of your room, after you reported them. Sure, it doesn't ban them from the game, but at least they won't be able to spoil your fun if they get kicked from your room. It's better than nothing.

^Not a soolution imho, lots of players in those servers are not really aware of the game command, many thinks that /ban is for reporting and that /report is useless

Something that popped out in those topic imho has a big relevance. Maybe in EN where there is a huge amount of players it's easy to find some good player with a clear history. But in small server it's way harder. because in communities of 50 players there may be 10 +18, and just 2-3 of them suitable for a staff position, and it can happen to have them with some sanction for "reasons". I've talked of this idea i had with a mod and he seemed kinda interested. Maybe you can find a good app from a player that has had some issue (a rough period or whatevs, he wasn't really aware of the rules and such) and stalk him for a period of time to see how he behave.
If something like this should've been done before in my home server we had a lot less troubles honestly, with staff members being hyperactive even for stupid stuff (players muted for sayin "fuck cristiano ronaldo") only for a month and than leaving because "they got bored" (textual words of a former arb in public chat). Or maybe asking some entrusted member of a community to make a pool of suitable names to check.
I know a couple of good players that could be really good for IT, but they had some mute months ago, but i'd put my hands on the fire that they'd be terrific as mod because they're good peeps, really beloved and respected by all.

TL:DR apps are good for big servers, stalking and asking trusted players about possible candidates to watch for a period of time is better for small servers.

Dkghost a dit :

Arab servers xD, no offense but it's kinda expected for the AR community to act like that.

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Well of course without a mod or people to stop the rules breakers
Theywill do what they want, some people do the same as the others. Like if someone saw a hacker and not banned,then they will use it

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The same goes to any other server.
Not only arabs
None of us are perfect.

Anythin a dit :

If there is no moderator available to help out, you have the alternative to voteban (/ban command) hackers out of your room, after you reported them. Sure, it doesn't ban them from the game, but at least they won't be able to spoil your fun if they get kicked from your room. It's better than nothing.

The survivor rooms gets 18 or less players, 5 hacks and the others bans but much players do not.

Ifrancesco a dit :

^Not a soolution imho, lots of players in those servers are not really aware of the game command, many thinks that /ban is for reporting and that /report is useless

Something that popped out in those topic imho has a big relevance. Maybe in EN where there is a huge amount of players it's easy to find some good player with a clear history. But in small server it's way harder. because in communities of 50 players there may be 10 +18, and just 2-3 of them suitable for a staff position, and it can happen to have them with some sanction for "reasons". I've talked of this idea i had with a mod and he seemed kinda interested. Maybe you can find a good app from a player that has had some issue (a rough period or whatevs, he wasn't really aware of the rules and such) and stalk him for a period of time to see how he behave.
If something like this should've been done before in my home server we had a lot less troubles honestly, with staff members being hyperactive even for stupid stuff (players muted for sayin "fuck cristiano ronaldo") only for a month and than leaving because "they got bored" (textual words of a former arb in public chat). Or maybe asking some entrusted member of a community to make a pool of suitable names to check.
I know a couple of good players that could be really good for IT, but they had some mute months ago, but i'd put my hands on the fire that they'd be terrific as mod because they're good peeps, really beloved and respected by all.

TL:DR apps are good for big servers, stalking and asking trusted players about possible candidates to watch for a period of time is better for small servers.

Totaly agree.
Its hard to find mature 18+ in AR since its small server

Dkghost a dit :

Arab servers xD, no offense but it's kinda expected for the AR community to act like that.

I don't like anyone to talk bad about arabs. So please don't reply here

Bugembo a dit :

Dkghost a dit :VoirMasquer

Arab servers xD, no offense but it's kinda expected for the AR community to act like that.

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Well of course without a mod or people to stop the rules breakers
Theywill do what they want, some people do the same as the others. Like if someone saw a hacker and not banned,then they will use it

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The same goes to any other server.
Not only arabs
None of us are perfect.

Agree but we still need a mod, just 1 of 10 mods reply to me and others do /silence there is two hackers and 5 guys who are spamming and insulting I did report and ignore and no one came.

You need at least 2 players reporting for a report to be successfully noticed by the mods.
Also Arab players are not all rude. I've some really nice friends from AR. It's true that if there is no control even the calmest player can lose his patience and start behaving badly as response.

Ifrancesco a dit :

^Not a soolution imho, lots of players in those servers are not really aware of the game command, many thinks that /ban is for reporting and that /report is useless

We can teach players to use the commands. Saying it's not a solution is wrong because it actually can be a solution if used properly.

snickerspi a dit :

The survivor rooms gets 18 or less players, 5 hacks and the others bans but much players do not.

13 people is more than enough to remove hackers from the room. Players just need to be taught how to use the voteban command appropriately.

Ifrancesco a dit :

TL:DR apps are good for big servers, stalking and asking trusted players about possible candidates to watch for a period of time is better for small servers.

If someone is good enough to be considered for staff, that person should apply through the right channels (here). You can't blame the application process if the person in question never used it to apply. Additionally, we already monitor potential candidates extensively during every application process. We don't base our opinions just on their application. This counts for both big and small communities.

Lastly, moderators from smaller communities have to meet the same standards as moderators from bigger communities. Hiring players for smaller communities with sanctions, that would be denied if they were to apply in a big community, is therefore not likely to be happening.

Ifrancesco a dit :

You need at least 2 players reporting for a report to be successfully noticed by the mods.

This was the old situation.Things have changed. We don't always need 2 reports anymore. Regardless, it shouldn't encourage anyone NOT to report. Players that have been reported more usually do get higher priority, mainly because moderators simply have to make choices and we prefer to handle as many valid reports as we can. However this doesn't mean we simply ignore other reports.

snickerspi a dit :

Agree but we still need a mod, just 1 of 10 mods reply to me and others do /silence there is two hackers and 5 guys who are spamming and insulting I did report and ignore and no one came.

We are working hard to find more staff every single day, but it's easier said than done. If you know good candidates, let them apply through the link above.

Didn't know about the change in the report system sorry, so one single report now counts?

Omehans a dit :

We can teach players to use the commands. Saying it's not a solution is wrong because it actually can be a solution if used properly.

Ifrancesco a dit :VoirMasquer

TL:DR apps are good for big servers, stalking and asking trusted players about possible candidates to watch for a period of time is better for small servers.

If someone is good enough to be considered for staff, that person should apply through the right channels (here). You can't blame the application process if the person in question never used it to apply. Additionally, we already monitor potential candidates extensively during every application process. We don't base our opinions just on their application. This counts for both big and small communities.

Lastly, moderators from smaller communities have to meet the same standards as moderators from bigger communities. Hiring players for smaller communities with sanctions, that would be denied if they were to apply in a big community, is therefore not likely to be happening.

I'm saying what i'm seeing through the perspective of a player that is actually into a community, I'm not blaming the actual appplication process, i helped the creators because I belive it is good, better than the previous one. I made a suggestion, I know that there are players (that already made the application) that i'm 99% sure have already been denied in a matter of seconds because in the past for many reasons received lots of sanctions, that can actually can be really good staff members because they "Learnt the lesson" really quickly and started to act properly.

I'm saying that it MAY be that this system could lead to anything for the reason stated above. And a backup plan can be found.

I think a suggestion can be made, it's up to the staff to think about it if they find it interesting.

I hope you got now what i'm trying to say.

Omehans a dit :

Ifrancesco a dit :VoirMasquer

^Not a soolution imho, lots of players in those servers are not really aware of the game command, many thinks that /ban is for reporting and that /report is useless

We can teach players to use the commands. Saying it's not a solution is wrong because it actually can be a solution if used properly.

snickerspi a dit :VoirMasquer

The survivor rooms gets 18 or less players, 5 hacks and the others bans but much players do not.

13 people is more than enough to remove hackers from the room. Players just need to be taught how to use the voteban command appropriately.

Ifrancesco a dit :VoirMasquer

TL:DR apps are good for big servers, stalking and asking trusted players about possible candidates to watch for a period of time is better for small servers.

If someone is good enough to be considered for staff, that person should apply through the right channels (here). You can't blame the application process if the person in question never used it to apply. Additionally, we already monitor potential candidates extensively during every application process. We don't base our opinions just on their application. This counts for both big and small communities.

Lastly, moderators from smaller communities have to meet the same standards as moderators from bigger communities. Hiring players for smaller communities with sanctions, that would be denied if they were to apply in a big community, is therefore not likely to be happening.

Ifrancesco a dit :VoirMasquer

You need at least 2 players reporting for a report to be successfully noticed by the mods.

This was the old situation.Things have changed. We don't always need 2 reports anymore. Regardless, it shouldn't encourage anyone NOT to report. Players that have been reported more usually do get higher priority, mainly because moderators simply have to make choices and we prefer to handle as many valid reports as we can. However this doesn't mean we simply ignore other reports.

snickerspi a dit :VoirMasquer

Agree but we still need a mod, just 1 of 10 mods reply to me and others do /silence there is two hackers and 5 guys who are spamming and insulting I did report and ignore and no one came.

We are working hard to find more staff every single day, but it's easier said than done. If you know good candidates, let them apply through the link above.

I will tell my friend to apply but I applied aswell.

I know you all mods are working but its hard for us to play, there is hackers 24/7 in the game and I try my best reporting

Voteban should never be a solution for rule breakers and I'm kind of disappointed a moderator has even gone so far as to suggest that.

Haruhitastic a dit :

Voteban should never be a solution for rule breakers and I'm kind of disappointed a moderator has even gone so far as to suggest that.

If you have to choose between playing with a cheater or not playing with a cheater by using voteban, you can help yourself by votebanning the cheaters until a moderator can handle the report. Unless you give us a big list of players that we can hire as moderator on the spot, you should accept the reality that we can't be everywhere at the same time and we won't be able to help everyone at once. I am the last one to say using voteban is ideal, but doing nothing while you wait for a moderator doesn't make the game more fun either.

I dunno about in france, but over here there are plenty of laws surrounding "underage" volunteers. The company they are volunteering for has to jump through so many hoops to safeguard the volunteer, as well as getting parents/guardians and such involved to a heavy degree. I don't think lowering the age (even if it was an option, i know it's not cos of french laws and how they consider mods "unpaid staff" and not "volunteers") would benefit them, considering the legwork they'd have to do just to clear these kids to vol for them. The time the "real" staff would have to take to work through all the red tape would more than likely not be worth it

Omehans a dit :

Haruhitastic a dit :VoirMasquer

Voteban should never be a solution for rule breakers and I'm kind of disappointed a moderator has even gone so far as to suggest that.

If you have to choose between playing with a cheater or not playing with a cheater by using voteban, you can help yourself by votebanning the cheaters until a moderator can handle the report. Unless you give us a big list of players that we can hire as moderator on the spot, you should accept the reality that we can't be everywhere at the same time and we won't be able to help everyone at once. I am the last one to say using voteban is ideal, but doing nothing while you wait for a moderator doesn't make the game more fun either.

I totally agree but we don't even have one moderator, I am sure that I'm annoying the mods but most of them comes and sometimes not, today a hackers came and hacked for a hour and insulted my god and left, how should I shut up about this?

Squirrelmows a dit :

I dunno about in france, but over here there are plenty of laws surrounding "underage" volunteers. The company they are volunteering for has to jump through so many hoops to safeguard the volunteer, as well as getting parents/guardians and such involved to a heavy degree. I don't think lowering the age (even if it was an option, i know it's not cos of french laws and how they consider mods "unpaid staff" and not "volunteers") would benefit them, considering the legwork they'd have to do just to clear these kids to vol for them. The time the "real" staff would have to take to work through all the red tape would more than likely not be worth it

I would like to say to make a new rank called volunteers that doesn't get paid and must be 15 or more to save few servers from hacking

That's what i said, in some communities the application process could lead to nothing for many reasons, i don't think asking someone really trusted which lives that community daily, to make a list of names to watch carefully it's the end of the world, it's a desperate try to handle a situation that for some server is leading them to anarchy, aside from an arb, my community has no staff since almost a year, excluding a short month of chaos lead by a bad application process (because errors can happen, not blaming anyone). One year where 2-3 players had to constantly call the moderators, handle many situation related to the game: how2buy fraises, teach the players how to report and ban, helping for forum issues, even contacting the mods for them because not everyone can speak english. I can barely play a couple of rounds before the whispers of players in need start popping out. And as far as i'd like to help my fellow mates, I can't do everything. I'm happy to see the at the apps process at last gave us a staff member (a Sentinel) but still in game we are really uncovered.

From our perspective we are abandoned. That is the point.

Omehans a dit :

Haruhitastic a dit :VoirMasquer

Voteban should never be a solution for rule breakers and I'm kind of disappointed a moderator has even gone so far as to suggest that.

If you have to choose between playing with a cheater or not playing with a cheater by using voteban, you can help yourself by votebanning the cheaters until a moderator can handle the report. Unless you give us a big list of players that we can hire as moderator on the spot, you should accept the reality that we can't be everywhere at the same time and we won't be able to help everyone at once. I am the last one to say using voteban is ideal, but doing nothing while you wait for a moderator doesn't make the game more fun either.

In my four years of game play I'd like to think I'm pretty aware that I know the reality of mods not being able to be "everywhere at the same time and able to help everyone at once," so kindly don't talk down to me.
I know that mods can't be everywhere. I didn't say they could. I just think voteban should never be a solution and having a person in power suggest it as one is wrong.

Haruhitastic a dit :

Omehans a dit :VoirMasquer

Haruhitastic a dit :VoirMasquer

Voteban should never be a solution for rule breakers and I'm kind of disappointed a moderator has even gone so far as to suggest that.

If you have to choose between playing with a cheater or not playing with a cheater by using voteban, you can help yourself by votebanning the cheaters until a moderator can handle the report. Unless you give us a big list of players that we can hire as moderator on the spot, you should accept the reality that we can't be everywhere at the same time and we won't be able to help everyone at once. I am the last one to say using voteban is ideal, but doing nothing while you wait for a moderator doesn't make the game more fun either.

In my four years of game play I'd like to think I'm pretty aware that I know the reality of mods not being able to be "everywhere at the same time and able to help everyone at once," so kindly don't talk down to me.
I know that mods can't be everywhere. I didn't say they could. I just think voteban should never be a solution and having a person in power suggest it as one is wrong.

In few servers like AR that have hackers 24/7 we need a person that have power or a new mod since our mod don't even open