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Prooskiller
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Hello! ツ
Going to assume this is a dog and work my way from there.
here are some things I noticed rather quickly:


● If the dog is being shot with a bullet wound that has enough speed to travel through the dog's head at the very same moment, the action should be enough to have the dog lean to the side due to the impact of the shot.

● I'm quite sure (but correct me if I'm wrong) that horns don't grow quite as straight you chose to portray them in this sketch. Try looking at pictures of cattle and goats to get the feel of drawing horns.
Picture one- forward
Picture two- Backwards

● Wings certainly do not work that way. They, too have bones and a basic skeletal and anatomy structure pattern you must follow.

◆ The feathers on wings are layered a specific way to keep the cold air out of their bodies. Sadly, they are not in clumps of feather. Again I suggest you take the time to reference what you are drawing.
Wing's many layers
◆ Wings aren't just random loops with a pick-and-choose mix-and-match shape box full of feathers. Once you master layering, please read up on primaries, secondaries, coverts, etc. It will help you a lot in the near future.
◆ If your wings are folded, you bet that it will make a ripple effect, similar to the 'stretch and squeeze' described by Fierying in former posts. Again read up all you can about anatomy of birds and it will help a ton. In the meantime, have a picture that I thought would help in this case.



● A little on the nitpicky side, but unless slicked by rain, the hair should appear more 'poofy'.
● I don't think it is possible for a dog to stand that straight, since they aren't gophers or meer cats.
● You might want to round the snout a little! Dogs and mammals of the like usually have a more roundish snout with something that one might call a 'nick' at the top. Lucycat's sketch for Griffin may help a bit, though it was originally intended for cats. Need any more help on this subject and I will be happy to give you some!

● The paws are way too small for the body you have given your character. Also style-pickish, but if you are going to accurate anatomy the eyes should be much, much smaller.


working on the redline, sorry if this is considered nitpicky!
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thanks alot it helpss me alot!! :DDD
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I am going to sound really bitchy here but seeing how people are giving critiques right now, its really bothering me.
In fact I am going to give a critic to people giving critiques.
Critique comes from the word Critical, which means a major change, or impactful.
In terms of art, giving a critic is to improve a feature of the subject, mostly on the 3 basic art fundamentals of Anatomy, perspective, colors, etc.
The problem now is that since MOST of you are hobbyist or new to art and draws to make yourself happy, you guys do not even know these fundamentals. You draw because you just want to and it makes you happy, which is OK if you are the one drawing but for a person to give critiques, it ISN'T OK.
Art is subjective and technically you cannot give a critique, but we still have it is because critiques given now is base on the world we live in. Thats why when you give criticism, you cannot rely on YOUR STYLE OR PREFERENCE ON DRAWING, but relating things to the real world.
Base on the recent critic above me, as much as I know you have the heart to help someone, I want to say this:
It did not even help at all
I am sorry to say this but it doesn't solve anything!
All of what is written down is just "your style".
The anatomy is still wrong, the wings aren't even wings, the canine snout is still wrong.
Don't get me started on more advance stuff like action lines, gesture, composition and all those things.
And as much I would love to give a critique on your works, you guys have small or no knowledge about the basic art fundamentals and I cannot help you because its "your style"

You don't have to do what I am saying, i have no rights to forcefully change you but i just want some of you to know that end of the day, you are not helping. I am sorry.
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techtriostep a dit :
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Myself and many others need to work on critiquing a lot. Honestly though I think if these artists want legit, full on professional critiquers looking at their work they should look elsewhere than a mouse forum.

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Techtriostep, maybe you should offer some of your expertise then? :)
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critique please
to make it not look like it's falling
http://i.imgur.com/B4MYRvy.jpg?2
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What kind of pose were you going for initially?
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griffincraft a dit :
What kind of pose were you going for initially?

its was a curled up pose but i was drawing at a weird angle and messed around with it a little
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I just come here when I'm bored and want to look at art XDDDD
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opicalneon a dit :
critique please
to make it not look like it's falling
http://i.imgur.com/B4MYRvy.jpg?2

Alright, not the best with critiques, but I'll give it my best shot..
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1. Mice's head have a triangular form. Although I am aware that often in the forums people draw them with large foreheads (including myself), the anatomically correct way to draw it is nearly completely flat, like in this image:
http://www.effectivepestcontrol.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/mouse-exterminator-image.jpg <They do have a small dip for the forehead, but it's small
2. Eyes arent positioned that far back on the head, theyre normally a little more to the front on a mouse. If you look at images of mice, it seems like the eye is more or less on the midway point between the ears and the nose.
3. If an animal is curled up, it's normally more smushed together. Its head is either laying overtop the paws/tail or tucked close to their hind paws:
http://cutearoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Squirrel.jpg

The position is slightly different for a mouse though, considering their paws are smaller.
Mice have their heads tucked over their stomach and their front paws curled inwards. From what I've seen, mice usually curl up with their backs on the ground rather than on their flanks, which means their hind legs are in the air;
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/32/c3/66/32c366ae6895b2b44bdd9249ba12a4e6.jpg

Your mouse's legs are stretched out in a way that would make it appear limp if it was lying down and it's sorta positioned in a way that, as you said, makes it look like it's falling

I'm also going to quote Fierying here, because the critique they gave me could also help you:
Fierying a dit :
I just want to point out that for beginners, just looking at (one) reference does not help you to improve significantly. In fact if you want to improve on anatomy, 1st gather many references of the subject and understanding its form and shape by drawing the same subject at different angles.
(However griffin since its due in a few days, I suggest just finishing this painting up 1st, studies are a long process and you should do it when you are free)
Pft, why do i NEED TO DO THIS? it waste my time and its boring!
Sorry to break it to you but as much as drawing could be a relaxing activity, if you want to get serious in art, you have to discipline yourself to learn fundamentals, and it is BORING.(and stressful)
The reason why you need any references and drawing at different angle is for you to understand that everything has matter and they are in a 3D space, which consist of Height, width and length. Maybe from one angle, an object looks like an oval but from another, it can look like a circle. The more you draw, the more you do not think about a 2D shape but a 3D sphere and etc.

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Critique please:

http://imgur.com/dZj0mSB.png
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thanks griff
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http://fiercestarsummer.deviantart.com/art/Oscivuro-Outline-Teehee-591119650
XD I have a very unique style of drawing I guess?

Final project:
http://fiercestarsummer.deviantart.com/art/Oscivuro-Fanart-591137498

Idk....
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sshaj a dit :
http://fiercestarsummer.deviantart.com/art/Oscivuro-Outline-Teehee-591119650
XD I have a very unique style of drawing I guess?

Final project:
http://fiercestarsummer.deviantart.com/art/Oscivuro-Fanart-591137498

Idk....

What pose is the mouse in? Is it jumping or is it kicking the ball?
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rate pls

http://i.imgur.com/dhVbrr1.png
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Just kill it
http://i.imgur.com/vbEjobJ.jpg
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Help me with this Angel Dragon
http://i.imgur.com/936CYFv.png
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Bringing this thread back to life....
Ok, so I JUST got a tablet (I'm sure everyone knows) so don't be too harsh.
But I have this.
http://i.imgur.com/cpYlcXE.png


I'm still getting used to the pressure sensitivity and stuff, but maybe some tips to help me out with future artwork?
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Broncosfan a dit :
Bringing this thread back to life....
Ok, so I JUST got a tablet (I'm sure everyone knows) so don't be too harsh.
But I have this.
http://i.imgur.com/cpYlcXE.png


I'm still getting used to the pressure sensitivity and stuff, but maybe some tips to help me out with future artwork?

clears throat
ahem mmm yes i apologize for this but:
click the image so that you can actually read it
http://i.imgur.com/183ZicB.png

ALSO, i flipped the image because it is essential to constantly check how your drawing looks when flipped horizontally. you will see problems that you may not have seen without doing so. (many times i use it to test leg lengths and whether or not my characters are dramatically leaning towards one side. its actually stunning how much you dont see when you dont flip it)
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shardpixel a dit :
Broncosfan a dit :
Bringing this thread back to life....
Ok, so I JUST got a tablet (I'm sure everyone knows) so don't be too harsh.
But I have this.
http://i.imgur.com/cpYlcXE.png


I'm still getting used to the pressure sensitivity and stuff, but maybe some tips to help me out with future artwork?

clears throat
ahem mmm yes i apologize for this but:
click the image so that you can actually read it
http://i.imgur.com/183ZicB.png

ALSO, i flipped the image because it is essential to constantly check how your drawing looks when flipped horizontally. you will see problems that you may not have seen without doing so. (many times i use it to test leg lengths and whether or not my characters are dramatically leaning towards one side. its actually stunning how much you dont see when you dont flip it)

Thanks for the tips!
I kinda rushed this just to play around with the tablet a bit.
I've noticed that the more I work with it, the less sloppy the lines look. I believe my stabilizer is still on, so it does help a bit :P
I will actually save this, so I have it to work with on upcoming artwork! :)
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Sorry for double post, but I have another thing I need help with.
http://i.imgur.com/oiOzFWe.png

I already know that the arms are a bit funky.
I've done the sketches too, but they are really off due to fixing things.
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