Your thoughts on shaman skills being removed from Vanilla? |
Wolfghostiemars « Citoyen » 1514086740000
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There COULD be a thing where you could switch your skills on or off.. |
Jittercritter « Censeur » 1514087520000
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Amelizz a dit : This is a very good resource and I suggest anyone having trouble as a Divine shaman should look at this. Instead of despairing over how you can't build without skills, learn how to. It's just a temporary test the devs are doing, why not test yourself at this time too? *-* |
Grimmaro « Consul » 1514087940000
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Daelea a dit : I think there is a reason why they are testing this in a mode like vanilla compared to normal where the map variety is more dangerous than the simplicity of vanilla. Comparing this test trial to a possible trial in normal is a bad comparison because both of them have very obvious differences that would drastically alter any decision about a possible implementation in normal. Face the facts: Vanilla has more newbs than the rest of the rooms, meaning that a good chunk of the playerbase there do not have too much skills that can help them drastically, which can already help ease people into having no skills for the duration of the event. Another reason why vanilla is better because the map variety is smaller, meaning that you have had more time to learn how to do each map compared to the thousands in the normal rotation. I still stand by my point -- at least this decision is temporary and you should spend the time really testing yourself to see if you're actually a good shaman or if you've relied on skills too much. Dernière modification le 1514088000000 |
Kippoz « Citoyen » 1514249700000
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whoa favoing in vanilla got 10x harder |
Deifavy « Censeur » 1514320080000
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If you can't build in divine without skills, then use normal/hard mode. Divine is supposed to be hard and putting 2big planks and some tape isn't actually building. And vanilla maps aren't that hard that you must have all skills to complete the map, you can easily build with normal/hard mode in any vanilla map within a minute and if you want to use divine, then it takes a little more time but it's still possible. Everything is possible if you try, not just sit in the forums and complain how hard is it to build without skills in divine, when noone even told you to use only that one mode and play only in vanilla rooms |
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1. I never saw anyone complain about skills (only in survivor) 2. If you don't like skills don't use them, that isn't hard. So there is no reason to remove them for everyone, if someone don't like it don't use it. ( And lol why would anyone hate skills?) |
Saraisbig « Citoyen » 1514321820000
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I really don't like it. It has given me a hard time getting saves. I go to vanilla because i personally find it hard to earn any cheese in other rooms. Not only have they taken away the good stuff. They added those snowballs and chickens. Now this is what happens to me. I'm almost finished my buid and someone decides to throw a snowball at the anvil and my building collapses.TFM is going downhill tbh, #Bringtheskillsback. |
Force_shaman « Censeur » 1514326260000
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Deifavy a dit : One aspect i hate about skills and divine mode is how because these op skills exist, it makes people feel entitled to be able to use divine mode regardless of their skill level and as a result: everyone is using it. In the old days, very few were capable of building with V nails and it was sort of a "mastered shaman" mark. I'd like to see a little more skill required to use it so that other modes see use too if divine is too challenging for them. |
Glodandekol « Citoyen » 1514332980000
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I think that more experienced players in vanilla, using their skills can show new players what they can look up to and maybe have one day |
+Supergrunt « Citoyen » 1514338260000
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Force_shaman a dit : You can always nerf the op skills to enough uses or no use at all, time to make a topic about that I guess but except the x tape thing, I can't think about nerfing another skill, that one is really good. |
Loyinhung « Citoyen » 1514340420000
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I like skills. GIVE MY WINGS BACK TFM My reasons: 1. No wings=No skills AND vanilla 1000x harder 2. No skills= Me: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Dernière modification le 1514340480000 |
Audority « Citoyen » 1514352660000
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I personally hate no skills in vanilla. My problem isn't with the fact that I can't build without them, but that other people can't. It's been a month and I've seen absolutely no improvement in the shams. One of the only reasons I play Transformice is so I can be in vanilla, and now it feels that they've completely ruined it. My save ratio has dropped dramatically because some of the vanilla maps require a faster speed to complete successfully in divine mode, and it's impossible to reach this requirement without the skill. I'm also unable to get the afk saves or padders, which just adds to my frustration. It takes twice as long to get firsts, since only half of the shams actually lead mice to successfully getting the cheese and going to the hole. Getting firsts and shamming are the only thing I do and now I truthfully can't do either, unless I go to a regular room or divinity. I understand the goals Tig had with doing this, but it seems to me that this update has only worsened things, not improved them. Bring back skills, please. |
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Audority a dit : I feel the same exact way |
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Audority a dit : not only this; but I have seen a vast increase in statpadders and a decrease in actual regulars who play in the same room daily. vanilla rooms are basically non-existent now because of the players discouraged from playing their once favorite game mode. |
Eironeia « Sénateur » 1514373360000
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Sorry if I do get hate for this. But It’s sad to see that people are still complaining and acting like the skills were taken from us yesterday. I do understand the struggle but I still play vanilla trying my best to at least get a single save without having to rely on my skills to revive the dead mice. Hence the Admins even gave us double XP & C for some reason. Focus on that instead because we all know they wont give us back our skills even though everyone is complaining just to get a like |
Audority « Citoyen » 1514393520000
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Xariexo a dit : I understand what you're saying, but sometimes a single save isn't enough. I went from getting at least 25 saves a map to 5, if I'm lucky. As much fun as it is gaining experience and knowledge of maps without skills, it's not worth it. If I wanted to practice my pro divine skills, I would go to divinity. Even when I do complete the map successfully, half the mice are already dead or die. Vanilla is no place to enjoy being a fun little builder who shows off their "no skills." |
+Supergrunt « Citoyen » 1514445060000
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Got a fight map, entered my hole, instant win for the other shaman. No skills on vanilla, not exactly. EDIT : things are broken, got a bubble on #divinty, that instant win isn't surprising. Dernière modification le 1514446800000 |
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Xariexo a dit : Honestly I gave up already. Knowing what they did for all these years and sure some of them are nice implementations but the rest's a full trash. I'd rather farm my play time with afkness than playing the game. It's kinda hard to say that a miracle will happen. Double cheese and xp are worth it but things like removal of skills and not taking care properly of the game blocks my way through it. Not to point they gave a massive sign showing where favoers should go after the skills got removed. |
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I said it once and I'll say it again. I understand that admins have done everything possible to please the players, but they really need to understand that not all decisions taken by them will be better for us. Many players didn't like that, it's totally unpleasant to have to deal with it. |
Fastflyinfalcon « Citoyen » 1514611680000
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Timolive a dit : yes. enough said give us skills back |